Donovan paragraphs 25-29

So up to now Donovan has been discussing whether the ‘intuitive’ feeling of certainty can be equated with being right. For example in the past men were ‘certain’ that women were inferior, Tony Blair we assume was certain there were WMD in Iraq or even earlier it was commonly believed that the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. He concludes that these feelings are in fact a matter of our ‘beliefs’ and ‘states of mind’ [cross over with Ayer here!] unfortunately he goes on that just because we may on occasion also happen to have been right does not make the feeling reliable.

[25+26] The problem he addresses in this paragraph is what happens if ‘intuitive feelings’ are all one has to go on. You may have been right in the past and you’ve got that same feeling again but you’ve only got an ‘intuitive’ memory to check the intuitive feeling! This as he points out is circular and shows that our ‘sense of intuition’… ‘is not an independent guide to genuine knowledge.’ Here reliability is the key and sticking point!

[27] He goes on to quote Russell who famously gave the example of people who think they are in love but that ‘deception in such cases is constantly practiced with success.’ Donovan agrees with Russell at least in this that ‘the intellect’ is more reliable in the long run.

[28] He now brings the argument into the debate about religious experience. While the experient may be convinced of the religious experience they then go on to assume the reality of the object of that religious experience. However that cannot be assumed says Donovan.

[29] Here he takes issue with Owen’s suggestion that we should accept this kind ‘intuitive, non-inferential knowledge’ on the basis that we accept it in ordinary aspects of our lives. Especially the kind of sense perception which allows us to know that other people exist and what they are like because we have a body just like them, Donovan argues that this is true only because we can also support our belief in the existence of other people by analogy from our knowledge of ourselves as ‘conscious beings.’ Thus what he appears to be saying here is that although we can know other people exist because of our own experience of consciousness to make the jump to the existence of a supreme being outside of ordinary ‘sense experience’ is as Hume would have said a ‘leap too far!’ Maybe as Ayer said it merely says something about the ‘condition of the mind’ of the experient.

Concepts to discuss

  • Do we ever know other people? What they are capable of?
  • Examples of persons who have been convinced they were ‘right’ historical and modern.
  • What happens when our intuition lets us down? We tend to ignore it and only count it when we are right!
  • Describe and discuss some of the examples of religious experiences and what the experients learned and / or believed.
  • Religious experiences only tell us of the state of someone’s mind – this can then bring in all the other alternative explanations for religious experiences e.g. hallucination; drug induced; starvation, meditation, neurological reaction to stimulus, wishful thinking etc

How to tackle the Implications passage using Ayer paragraph 1

Clarification summary part (a)

In this passage Ayer, having dismissed the idea of animistic gods, goes on to claim that philosophers now ‘generally admit’ that no God’s existence is ‘even probable’ because, as an hypothesis, the assertion ‘God exists’ is unverifiable because it is a ‘metaphysical’ claim referring to a ‘transcendent being’ about which nothing can be known and therefore the whole exercise is pointless or as he puts it of no ‘significance.’

In this paragraph he has also dismissed the traditional teleological argument on the basis that all this argument does is claim that there is ‘regularity in nature’ and since this is not what theists are really claiming about God but about his ‘transcendent’ nature which cannot be limited by being defined in ’empirical’ terms, this cannot be empirically verified, cannot be true or false and thus is again as he says in the title of his article ‘evidently nonsense.’

So what are the concepts which need clarifying if we are to understand Ayer’s position?

  1. not even probable

One of the things which Ayer does is to equate ‘metaphysical’ with im-‘probable’ rejecting the possibility that there is anything other than the concrete realm. Another wild claim of Ayer’s is that ‘philosophers’ admit! Which ones? Not all that’s for sure! And what about ‘not even probable’? Dawkins admits that though not probable even he cannot be 100% certain that God doesn’t exist and as a result counts himself ‘in category 6 leaning towards category 7’ in his 7 degrees of belief. ‘Atheists do not have belief and reason alone could not propel one to total conviction that anything definitely does not exist.’ But in opposition to Ayer’s intransigence even Dawkins says ‘I believe the existence of God as a scientific hypothesis is at least in principle, investigable.’

  1. cannot be demonstratively proved
  2. transcendent being
  3. metaphysical terms
  4. the dismissal of the teleological argument
  5. empirical hypothesis
  6. cannot be true, cannot be false and therefore of no ‘literal significance’
  7. religious language including the verification and falsification principles.
  8. ’empirical manifestations’ gives you the opportunity to talk about religious experience
  9. Religion as a blik or meme… why important?

(b) Do you agree? What are the implications ….

It is in this section in which you get to grips with what you think life / society / groups of people / art/ literature / music / history / geography / politics … whatever… would be if e.g the existence of God is not even probable or if all non-empirical claims were dismissed as of no literal significance?

What kinds of things would not exist? What kinds of things would not have happened? Happen? What might society be like? Better or worse? Remember Marx, Durkheim, their criticisms of religion… also look at what Dawkiins and Bertrand Russell say about religion (look again at The God Delusion.

Do remember to use examples and quotations too.

Re read the notes I gave you from the course I went on about marks for (a) and (b) and how to save something for (b) but have enough in (a)…